Author and substance use counselor JF Benoist joined our podcast this week for an enlightening conversation on his personal recovery story, the monkey mind, and the importance of experiential therapy in recovery. We got to hear how he came to identify the monkey mind as a cause of shame and pain, and how he learned to undo the programming. This episode is a must-listen for providers and anyone on the recovery journey. You can also access JF's book, Addicted to The Monkey Mind, for free here  https://avivelavie.com/book-offer/